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  Foreign Language Field and Fading

  by NoviceLocs14 in

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  hey guys.

  first of all, i want to thank everyone for being so welcoming and helpful on this forum.... i was thinking about my last 3 years as a jw when i was attending the portuguese congregation and learning that language to bring in more converts.

  interestingly, we were told not to attend meetings in our native language in order to immerse ourselves in the new language.

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  Novicelocs14, what a coincidence!I was also in the Portuguese foreign language group, Northeastern US.

  I know some folks that moved down south and continued with the Portuguese groups.

  I didn't struggle with the language as I also speak Spanish and there are many similarities.

  Anyhow, while I immersed myself in learning the language and really trying to grow in my spirituality, serving as a ministerial servant in the congregation is what really woke me up.

  I saw politics as part of the reason why decisions were made. I couldn't stand the hypocrisy that brought!

  That led me to question things and become curious enough to research online.

  I was also pioneering at the time. I gave up all the "privileges" and became "inactive" fairly quickly.

  Don't remember the last time I attended a meeting. The last memorial was probably 3 years ago I think.

  Best decision I have made and I haven't looked back.

  I do believe that that being part of a foreign language group made my fade much easier and quicker and gave me more time to think and clear my head of JW brainwashing.
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  How many years did you waste away in the Org?

  by Tallon in

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  in my case; 27 years.

  7 of which were as a ministerial serpent ... sorry, i mean 'servant' ;).

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  Not born in. My parents got serious with the JWs when I was about 7.

  10 years later I got baptized and was a part of the lie for about 13 years after that.

  Rose up the ranks as a pioneer and a ministerial servant.

  Woke up and faded.

  So roughly 23 years for me.

  Loving life now.
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  2016-09-21 BOE Re: Global Assistance Arrangement for the 2017 Service Year

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  september 21, 2016 to all congregations re: global assistance arrangement for the 2017 service year.

  ps to bodies of elders:.

  this postscript should not be read to the congregation, and this letter should not be placed on the noticeboard.

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  ..........."unexpected events"............

  Funny, they didn't mention being sued for covering up sexual abuse of a child.

  Maybe that isn't an unexpected event?
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  Fate, chance, divine retribution or sh*t happens?

  by eyeuse2badub in

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  2. beliefs

  fate, chance, divine retribution or sh*t happens?.

  so i described a cordial conversation with my jw wife and super-duper jw mil last week in which they encouraged me to ‘return to jehovah’.

  i told them that i would not be fooled thrice.. later that week we were discussing a fine mutual jw friend, ‘brother x’, that met with a very untimely death.

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  I never quite thought about it the way NVR2L8. But it is a good point.

  A JW says that another fellow JW could have avoided calamity if they had not gone to a concert, surfing, shopping, etc., during a meeting time.

  Of course they won't get it. But you can ask if that individual were somewhere else instead of where the incident happened and at the same exact time, would the JW still have something overcome him?

  Well they can't say yes because then it is predestination!

  Doesn't matter where you are at, something bad will happen if you are not at the meeting.

  If they say no, well then attending meetings, as we know here in this forum, is absolutely no guarantee of your life being spared from "unforeseen occurrences".

  How did I believe this crap!!??
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  Toasting is Pagan - How many contradictions can fit in 2 pages, I found 5?

  by jwfacts in

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  2. bible

  the watchtower 2007 feb 15 pp.30-31 explains why jehovah's witnesses are not to toast.

  what is astounding is that for each point they then go on an explain why the point is irrelevant, yet still conclude toasting is wrong.

  what did people think when reading this?

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  Great thread JWFacts!

  Using their logic, I rejected the JW religion because it has a religious background too.
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  Long time lurker, first time poster ...

  by LettMorrisSplaneit in

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  i finally had the guts to create a profile to be able to post.

  i've been lurking for a few months and have read all your experiences and comments dutifully.

  you have been a great help in my process of waking up from this cult posing as the one true religion.

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  Welcome! Very creative with the name. Love it!

  I'm form the east coast too - Northeast!
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  If you like dark humour, with an atheist twist, this will make you bust a gut. The Book of Job, by DarkMatter2525

  by talesin in

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  2. humour

  my room mate just introduced me to the darkmatter2525 channel on youtube.

  hilarity ensued.

  enjoy .

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  I've seen a lot of DarkMatters2525 videos and they are also hilarious.

  Ever watch the "Our Bloodthirsty Bible" series from TheThinkingAtheist?

  I love those videos too!

  
  
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  My first Halloween Party

  by 3rdgen in

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  warning!

  long post ahead!.

  i didn't know what to expect but i was really excited to be invited to accompany my daughter and her closest friends to a large (300+) party held at a famous hot spot.

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  Awesome 3rdgen!

  Sounds like you really enjoyed yourself.

  I attended my very first halloween party this year.

  And guess what? I did the same thing!

  I told people that this was my first Halloween party ever.

  Naturally they asked why. I mentioned I was raise a JW and that led to some interesting conversation.

  If was awesome though. I really enjoyed myself. And I believe you did as well at your party.

  Congrats!
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  Hello everyone!

  by Planetsmashers in

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  2. friends

  ive been lurking for a while and finally got around to registering.

  about me: i was essentially born in & indoctrinated from youth.

  i was always a borderline "bad association" type because i always did the minimum and always disagreed with much of what was taught; even when i was a child.. luckily for me my father was never a jw so i never had to endure the male head pressure.

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  Welcome!
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  Online Watchtower publications archives?

  by slimboyfat in

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  2. beliefs

  years ago i remember there being a number of sites with pretty extensive archives of watchtower publications online.

  can anyone direct me to the best current site for this material?

  in particular i am looking for a booklet from 1898 called "the bible vs. the theory of evolution".

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  I too have wondered about slimboyfat's return.

  He seems to have been silent on the matter.

  Regardless, thanks for the links everyone!